Does Butter Ever Show Up Again Div 2

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apprentice

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So I am kinda mad to be honest. First of all from all the NPC in Fort Joy Butter was the but i who really liked me frown and I am even a lizard at that! So we planned a date (I know that isss sooo romantic). Jokes aside, I was looking forward coming together her later on on the game. I didn't desire to tell that idiot camp leader whose name shall non be named on this mail service because he is EVIL xD so I had to fight him and do you know who joined him? My beloved Butter! Is at that place anyway to convince her before I kickoff the fight? If not delight make it and so... Now I have to reload, get the cadger killed simply and so I can satisfy my loveless life.


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I must admit that scenario troubled me somewhat too. I always thought that Butter was simply doing something that was expedient for her survival and that the lizard was just caught up in things, just afterward playing equally Sebille it seemed that he was quite a bit less innocent than I'd previously assumed. Of course some of that may accept been Sebille's perception but I think he was not exactly above lath.

Helping out the local mob didn't really sit well with me, but I guess I had to figure out the to the lowest degree worst solution. Saving Butter and the imprisoned elf also equally several other admittedly disreputable characters at the cost of an at least equally disreputable grapheme seemed like it was the best outcome, though admittedly I'd adopt one with no killage at all.

Edit: of course at that place's the possibility I've been had: I do take to wonder about her name, as in "butter wouldn't melt", maybe.

Last edited past vometia; 28/09/16 03:01 PM.

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journeyman

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Information technology's possible to sneak and lockpick the cage or steal the key from Griff. And then nobody dies. Also I once told Griff who the thief was and then killed the killer he sent for the lizard.


apprentice

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I teleported him out without anyone noticing, only afterward I spoke to him in the cave whenever I would get close Griff's gang would attack. I could walk effectually the camp before I spoke to him fine, but not after. Information technology was frustrating.


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Yup, reloaded here aswell noticing I had to kill Butter for some weird reason if Griff's party attacks... makes no sense to me so I added it to my problems-report list.

(Merely yep, they all survived thank you to Butter... grrr...)


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I think this spot in the game is a perfect place to add a niggling dialogue. If there is an automatic flag to make Griff'south gang hostile if the elf is freed without the gang getting the thief'southward proper noun, so I would suggest it exist switched to trigger a conversation instead. Information technology makes sense that they would be suspicious of the new guys in camp if the elf were mysteriously missing, then maybe a difficult persuasion check should be required to talk them downwardly.


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Late, but another way to get around this is to simply split your group 3/1 or 2/1 after getting the Drudaene from the Lizard thief. Convince him with Carmine Prince to mitt it over promising to protect him, send back your weakest member(I sent the female person elf rogue type), then in one case yous talk to The Gang & turn him over, yous bound cam back to the other members & kill the assassin sent (Be careful to use NPC specific skills, or the Lizard will become hostile if hit). He'll offer you compensation for saving him, & the Gang seems none the wiser.


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Honestly in that location should be a challenging persuasion check to convince him that he doesn't need to know who did it. Currently the seemingly "correct" manner to handle the situation diplomatically just leads to an automated fail country which is a small problem in my book.

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Example:
Amuse: (Prevarication) It wasn't attended, I found it in a hidden stash near the beach.
Logic: You accept what y'all want, anything further will simply cause more than trouble for y'all and your gang.
Intimidate: Enough, you have your drugs at present honor your deal.
Bribe: (100g) Maybe this volition help make upwards the difference.

Concluding edited past Kilroy512512; 17/10/16 12:36 AM.


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Or Butter perhaps should also turn friendly if you impale griff before Butter. Because and so her contract shall then be not valid anymore.

Simply I fear, to make the choice saving Butter or the cadger is what Larian would like to run across :-(


journeyman

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journeyman

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Concord with the OP. Butter is a likeable character and I've always felt sorry whenever I killed her (can't really say the same about anybody else in "her" gang, but any). One may talk of "guilt by association", just frankly, I wonder how many people would side with the stronger just to have a take a chance at survival. I wouldn't heed a speech check (or even meliorate, a sidequest) to have her change sides and leave the gang.

#Butterlivesmatter!


apprentice

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apprentice

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LOL

I've been avoiding this thread because I thought it was a spam message. (Like "here's 100 cooking tips to assistance you save butter and alive better!") Shame on me.

I ran into this situation likewise but when Butter joined the fight against my grapheme, I just causeless her whole "let'southward run into up later" oral communication was more of a seductress' ploy to back-scratch favor than a genuine offer. She made the bed she now sleeps in.

R.I.P. Butter.


stranger

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What makes things even more centre breaking is when y'all read her diary found on her expressionless body where she writes she thinks she has plant a lover lol, Larian devs are sadistic people :p Same with the blind magister with his piffling daughter writing to him lol xD

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enthusiast

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I call up nosotros might be able to meet her in Arx - outside of the isle? So nosotros wouldn't have access to that content.


journeyman

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What makes things even more heart breaking is when yous read her diary found on her dead body where she writes she thinks she has plant a lover lol, Larian devs are sadistic people :p Same with the blind magister with his little daughter writing to him lol xD

That blind magister could've been responsible for God-Knows-What atrocities, because what his order is up to. Slaughtering him really didn't make me bat an eye, fifty-fifty after having read his daughter'due south letter (and considering that he still behaves a self-righteous knob fifty-fifty if you try to reason with him, I've kinda enjoyed killing him). Butter, on the other mitt....


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I simply appoint Butter in Conversation with ane character then slaughter Griff and the others. Afterward she remains at her post and friendly and a vendor.



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